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=== Topics of Discussion === | === Topics of Discussion === | ||
*Matt Groening confesses that he has never seen an original episode of Star Trek in its entirety. He explains that he didn't dislike the show, but just never watched it. | *[[Matt Groening]] confesses that he has never seen an original episode of [[Star Trek]] in its entirety. He explains that he didn't dislike the show, but just never watched it. | ||
**He felt that this could help the episode by judging the jokes without knowing what they are alluding to. | **He felt that this could help the episode by judging the jokes without knowing what they are alluding to. | ||
*Past usage of the distinctive wheelchair, both in | *Past usage of the distinctive wheelchair, both in [[The Simpsons]] and [[Futurama]]. | ||
*Pat was a Star Trek fan as a child, but since then never watched it then until directing this episode. Many of her colleagues at Rough Draft Studios were jealous of her directorial position. | *[[Pat Shinagawa]] was a Star Trek fan as a child, but since then never watched it then until directing this episode. Many of her colleagues at [[Rough Draft Studios]] were jealous of her directorial position. | ||
**David X. Cohen concludes that they picked the best series to create a parody of. | **[[David X. Cohen]] concludes that they picked the best series to create a parody of. | ||
*David A. Goodman mentions his work on this episode got him a job writing for Star Trek: Enterprise. | *[[David A. Goodman]] mentions his work on this episode got him a job writing for {{w|Star Trek: Enterprise}}. | ||
*Original ideas for the episode, including a battle between a giant William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. | *Original ideas for the episode, including a battle between a giant [[William Shatner]] and [[Leonard Nimoy]]. | ||
*The story behind getting all of the original Star Trek cast members to play themselves in the episode. | *The story behind getting all of the original Star Trek cast members to play themselves in the episode. | ||
**The only actor to reject the offer was James Doohan | **The only actor to reject the offer was {{w|James Doohan}}. Goodman then titled the original script "We Got Everybody Except Scotty." | ||
* | *Goodman confirms to [[Maurice LaMarche]] that all listed episode numbers in one of [[Melllvar|Melllvar's]] lines are correct. | ||
*Discussion of the two returning Star Trek characters in the show, Leonard Nimoy and | *Discussion of the two returning Star Trek characters in the show, Leonard Nimoy and [[Michelle Nichols]]. | ||
*Matt was nervous of being questioned by William Shatner on his knowledge of the show. | *Matt was nervous of being questioned by William Shatner on his knowledge of the show. | ||
*Billy also had a conversation about Futurama with William Shatner. | *[[Billy West]] also had a conversation about Futurama with William Shatner. | ||
*Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner were the only two actors who were allowed to converse their lines into the same microphone during the recording process. | *Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner were the only two actors who were allowed to converse their lines into the same microphone during the recording process. | ||
* | *Cohen tells the story of squishing everyone into the Recording Booth to watch their idols act. | ||
** | **Goodman speaks of his moments urinating next to Leonard Nimoy. | ||
*The episode was approved of by the fans at the Pasadena Star Trek Convention. | *The episode was approved of by the fans at the Pasadena Star Trek Convention. | ||
*A line of Melllvar's was intended to have a strong tone, but Maurice felt it needed to be softer and was used instead. | *A line of Melllvar's was intended to have a strong tone, but Maurice felt it needed to be softer and was used instead. | ||
*Discussion of deleted scenes. | *Discussion of [[List of deleted scenes|deleted scenes]]. | ||
* | *Cohen questions the phasers moving away from each other at the ship, but meeting each other at their target. | ||
* | *Cohen describes several early versions of Melllvar. | ||
* | *Goodman mentions references to Star Trek that were missed by fans. | ||
* | *Goodman talks about his yearning to write the planned Star Trek episode for Futurama. | ||
** | **Cohen admits he was keeping quiet about who would be writing the episode because he was trying to find time to write it himself. | ||
* | *Cohen talks about [[John DiMaggio]] and himself laughing so hard at the table read of this script they cried. | ||
*A series of maladies left | *A series of maladies left Goodman with very little time to write the episode. | ||
*The commentators wonder the inspiration behind [[Dan Vebber|Dan Vebber's]] line on Melllvar's age. | *The commentators wonder the inspiration behind [[Dan Vebber|Dan Vebber's]] line on Melllvar's age. | ||
* | *Cohen asks Pat about dealing with lawyers throughout her time directing the episode. | ||
*William Shatner's spoken word cover of {{w|Elton John|Elton John's}} "{{w|Rocket Man (song)|Rocket Man}}." | *William Shatner's spoken word cover of {{w|Elton John|Elton John's}} "{{w|Rocket Man (song)|Rocket Man}}." | ||
*The various background for the closing credits. | *The various background for the closing credits. | ||
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<poem>'''David X. Cohen''': He's not joking by the way. David Goodman now writes for Star Trek: Enterprise. | <poem>'''David X. Cohen''': He's not joking by the way. David Goodman now writes for Star Trek: Enterprise. | ||
'''David A. Goodman''': And that will be the next series that I put in the ground.</poem> | '''David A. Goodman''': And that will be the next series that I put in the ground.</poem> | ||
<poem>'''Matt Groening''': And [James Doohan] wouldn't do it because he wouldn't do anything or...? | <poem>'''Matt Groening''': And [[James Doohan]] wouldn't do it because he wouldn't do anything or...? | ||
'''David A. Goodman''': Well the quote we got was "No way." | '''David A. Goodman''': Well the quote we got was "No way." | ||
'''Matt Groening''': A simple no would have been sufficient! | '''Matt Groening''': A simple 'no' would have been sufficient! | ||
'''David A. Goodman''': "No way!" | '''David A. Goodman''': "No way!" | ||
'''Maurice LaMarche''': The | '''Maurice LaMarche''': The 'way' was quite unnecessary.</poem> | ||
}} | }} | ||
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Topics of Discussion
- Matt Groening confesses that he has never seen an original episode of Star Trek in its entirety. He explains that he didn't dislike the show, but just never watched it.
- He felt that this could help the episode by judging the jokes without knowing what they are alluding to.
- Past usage of the distinctive wheelchair, both in The Simpsons and Futurama.
- Pat Shinagawa was a Star Trek fan as a child, but since then never watched it then until directing this episode. Many of her colleagues at Rough Draft Studios were jealous of her directorial position.
- David X. Cohen concludes that they picked the best series to create a parody of.
- David A. Goodman mentions his work on this episode got him a job writing for Star Trek: Enterprise.
- Original ideas for the episode, including a battle between a giant William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy.
- The story behind getting all of the original Star Trek cast members to play themselves in the episode.
- The only actor to reject the offer was James Doohan. Goodman then titled the original script "We Got Everybody Except Scotty."
- Goodman confirms to Maurice LaMarche that all listed episode numbers in one of Melllvar's lines are correct.
- Discussion of the two returning Star Trek characters in the show, Leonard Nimoy and Michelle Nichols.
- Matt was nervous of being questioned by William Shatner on his knowledge of the show.
- Billy West also had a conversation about Futurama with William Shatner.
- Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner were the only two actors who were allowed to converse their lines into the same microphone during the recording process.
- Cohen tells the story of squishing everyone into the Recording Booth to watch their idols act.
- Goodman speaks of his moments urinating next to Leonard Nimoy.
- The episode was approved of by the fans at the Pasadena Star Trek Convention.
- A line of Melllvar's was intended to have a strong tone, but Maurice felt it needed to be softer and was used instead.
- Discussion of deleted scenes.
- Cohen questions the phasers moving away from each other at the ship, but meeting each other at their target.
- Cohen describes several early versions of Melllvar.
- Goodman mentions references to Star Trek that were missed by fans.
- Goodman talks about his yearning to write the planned Star Trek episode for Futurama.
- Cohen admits he was keeping quiet about who would be writing the episode because he was trying to find time to write it himself.
- Cohen talks about John DiMaggio and himself laughing so hard at the table read of this script they cried.
- A series of maladies left Goodman with very little time to write the episode.
- The commentators wonder the inspiration behind Dan Vebber's line on Melllvar's age.
- Cohen asks Pat about dealing with lawyers throughout her time directing the episode.
- William Shatner's spoken word cover of Elton John's "Rocket Man."
- The various background for the closing credits.
Highlights / Quotes
David X. Cohen: He's not joking by the way. David Goodman now writes for Star Trek: Enterprise.
David A. Goodman: And that will be the next series that I put in the ground.
Matt Groening: And James Doohan wouldn't do it because he wouldn't do anything or...?
David A. Goodman: Well the quote we got was "No way."
Matt Groening: A simple 'no' would have been sufficient!
David A. Goodman: "No way!"
Maurice LaMarche: The 'way' was quite unnecessary.
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