Talk:Philip J. Fry

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Fry's Birthdate

Buddy13 FW16.png I got his birthdate off of Wikipedia. And several other people list his birthdate as being in 1974. Is there any evidence to support this? In the original script, he states that he was conceived during Nixon's resignation speech, which occured on August 9, 1974, which would place his birth nine months later, sometime in May, 1975. I know the original script isn't really official, but if no contradicting evidence made it into any episodes, I think we can take it as such.

Fry As His Own Grandfather

I was thinking this out one day and I realized that Enos is His mother's father. The reason bing is that in one episode, Fry's father, Yancy, said that every first born Fry names his first born son Yancy. Just a thought. --Fallettus 10:57, 22 February 2007 (PST)Someguy564

This has been discussed many times in many places, including here. Yancy says "my grandfather and his father and so on"--he never mentions his father. Enos is his father. Fry's mother's hair looks like Enos', though, so it may be revealed in later episodes that Fry went further back in time and created the Fry line in the first place. Or something. See Fry Family Tree and its talk page. --Buddy 12:52, 22 February 2007 (PST)

But why is it he his father's father? What makes us so sure of that?--Fallettus 12:32, 26 February 2007 (PST)

Well, technically, the only proof is the sketch of Enos Fry. As per the discussion here, we know Enos is a Fry also our Fry speaks to his Dad in Enos' crotch. We therefore assume the slightly less disgusting. Enos is the falsified father of Yancy.
Wait why did I say "slightly less disgusting"? If Minute Man is ancestral to Our Fry's mother and he confused his grandparents (in fact fathering his mother) and Enos is a Fry, then at some point Fry's parents either were or believed they were cousins. Actually, the cousin idea may explain the hair similarity. - Quolnok 02:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)
Convolution ahoy! -- Buddy13 FW16.png 08:17, 27 February 2007 (PST)

I fail to see any evidence of a connection to Fry's mother in any of Fry's paternal gene pool. Though she does have similar hair we seem to forget that she is also a cartoon - why not discuss the likely hood of the animator giving her the hair style to show family resemblance? Quolnok - how does Fry talking to Enos' crutch amount to any evidence that Enos took part in conception? Robotelder

Fry's Age

In the episode "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", everyone (including Fry) goes in the Fountain of Aging. The Professer says that he is even older than before. So is it not possible, nay, probable that everyone is a slightly different age than before? How likely is it that when each person jumped into the fountain, they all come out the same age as before? Not very likely, I assume. So can we really be sure of anyone's real age? - Ziekerz

We know that, unlike other cartoons, the characters age as years progress. The best we can do is take known ages and add one after the year of the episode ends. Although we probably should add a bit to all characters with known ages pages noting the source for the information. You are right though, we don't know how much the fountain aged them. - Quolnok 19:09, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
Maybe, Ziekerz. But how is likely is most of the things on the show? This is not a serious TV show. Well... not much TV is serious. But you know what I mean. You better accept that the writers on this show has a range of ... freedom. And besides, their time in the fountain wouldn't have changed their technically age. --SvipTalk 20:38, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
You do have a point Svip, however keep in mind that while the Futurama staff doesn't do this perfectly, they do conform to continuity and the laws of science more than almost all other TV shows and movies.Anarchy Balsac 09:06, 1 February 2008 (PST)

???

Why does this page, Leela's and Bender's differ form the standard character articles with General Info and Biography sections - Humorbot 0.4 Planet Express Logo.png 08:51, 13 September 2007 (PDT)

I think they were made before there was a standard and weren't changed. Feel free to fix them. - Quolnok 02:31, 14 September 2007 (PDT)

Expand

Like wikipedia with the long character articles we could split them up into different sections like for Fry, Early Life, Discovering the Future (mainly season one), and others about seasons 2,3,4 and when it comes out the movies. Also we could include other sections like on his romantic interests - Humorbot 0.4 Planet Express Logo.png 08:51, 13 September 2007 (PDT)

Family

I was not sure how to sort out Fry's family in the new infobox there are too many relitives. I did my best but knowing me something must have gone wrong - Humorbot 0.4 Planet Express Logo.png 14:20, 25 November 2007 (PST)

If there are too many, write this instead:
''See [[#Family|family]] section.''
Cause sometimes it is too much for a caption, e.g. see The Beast with a Billion Backs and check the title reference thing in the infobox. --SvipTalk 14:28, 25 November 2007 (PST)
And wouldn't you know it thanks to fate I already deleted that section, thanks for the info Svip - Humorbot 0.4 Planet Express Logo.png 14:33, 25 November 2007 (PST)
Humorbot, that reminds me of an important thing. Just because something is mentioned in the infobox, does it not mean it cannot be mentioned again in the article. The infobox is intended for a quick overlook. And tabular data. --SvipTalk 11:05, 29 November 2007 (PST)

frozen twice?

When did that happen? The only second freezing I remember was when he was in pauly shore's tube, but he was only frozen for three days, not a thousand years. I'm so confused? Did it happen in a comic? What the dilly, yo?! --Buddy 10:58, 29 November 2007 (PST)

Did you not watch the film? He travels back in time to 2000, where after touching his own butt (on his frozen self) he falls into the tube and stays there for a 1000 years, when he wakes up, he tunes it for 7.95 years so he can wake up when the guys are remembering him in Central Park. --SvipTalk 11:03, 29 November 2007 (PST)
My movie hasn't arrived yet, and I'm honoring the creators by not watching illegal versions. Foo! *runs off* --Buddy 11:05, 29 November 2007 (PST)
I thought you said you had watched it... *scratches head* --SvipTalk 11:06, 29 November 2007 (PST)
I accidentally stumbled on an online version, and I watched the cold opening, but after the theme song (and a bit of doctor bimbo or whatever Fry called her) I stopped. The movie will be in my mailbox today, and I shall watch it on the glorious real screen of a television, as it was meant to be! (even if it were legal, I can't stand watching things on tiny computer screens, and at poor internet-friendly resolutions). But within a day or two, I'll have watched the whole thing, including any and all commentaries, special features, deleted scenes, and robot porn. --Buddy 11:09, 29 November 2007 (PST)
Amazon shipped mine Tuesday, but they say ETA is 17 December. >:O How difficult is it t send something across the Atlantic I ask!? Also, I am sorry for revealing such information then! I shall speak no more until you have it. I too want to get my hand on the extra material! ;-; --SvipTalk 11:14, 29 November 2007 (PST)
Lucky me, i suppose. I got mine at blockbuster!--Dr. Zoidberg 21:20, 26 January 2008 (PST)

Action figures?

Should we include a sub-article (similar to the episodes' commentary sub-articles) for related merchendise? Obviously, action figures, shirts, that sort of thing. Or should we consolidate all such things into a single mega-article? I ask because I don't see anything anywhere about action figures, and it might be interesting to note the different types and companies and accessories... --Buddy 18:23, 3 February 2008 (PST)

Well, we definitely need something somewhere. I think a subsection of the "Additional Info" that links to the pages for the groups of action figures/etc (based on style/company) would be best. Unless the members of the groups are to be on separate pages and in group categories, then just a link to that article. - Quolnok 18:31, 3 February 2008 (PST)