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:::That does not sound to me like a complete prove.  It could be the commentator just thinking of it as he watches it, but it was the original intend of the scene.  I think his reference is more about the sexual undertones and the fact that something happens, that is what the fans should appreciate.  But who knows?  If anything, at least make it more speculative, so it doesn't appear as "truth". --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 11:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:::That does not sound to me like a complete prove.  It could be the commentator just thinking of it as he watches it, but it was the original intend of the scene.  I think his reference is more about the sexual undertones and the fact that something happens, that is what the fans should appreciate.  But who knows?  If anything, at least make it more speculative, so it doesn't appear as "truth". --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 11:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:::There's also the fact that Farnsworth and Bender both made comments along the lines of said fans. So any other possibility is extremely unlikely. I mean are you going to tell me that the scene, how it reflects the wishes of certain fans, the commentary by Claudia Catz, and the characters' own remarks are all a coincidence? I personally don't care about the scene, but the facts point to what was posted. And I do care about the facts.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 20:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:::There's also the fact that Farnsworth and Bender both made comments along the lines of said fans. So any other possibility is extremely unlikely. I mean are you going to tell me that the scene, how it reflects the wishes of certain fans, the commentary by Claudia Catz, and the characters' own remarks are all a coincidence? I personally don't care about the scene, but the facts point to what was posted. And I do care about the facts.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 20:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Given the writers' tendency to make really "nerdy" allusions to general science and science fiction, I think it's pretty likely the title is a reference to Ender's Game, a sci-fi novel by Orson Scott Card which won the Nebula and Hugo award's in 85 and 86, respectively.  I don't really know how to go about proving that, just that from the audio commentary on the seasons David X. Cohen seems to read a lot of science fiction and often makes references to things from it.  Granted it could just be describing the fact that it's Bender's game of D&D, but I can't think of any episodes or movies where the title was so bland and purely descriptive.  They're usually a play on something.

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Necessary?

Is the "lesbian fetish" point necessary? Isn't that more of a personal thing than general trivia?-- the preceding unsigned comment was written by Mine-Me.

I agree, I felt too it was a little over the top. Not because I am going to censor "bad words" (as I don't believe in censorship), but because it seems like a rather speculative and subjective thing. My thought was that the writers just wanted her seducing to take a step further, for the comedy value of it, rather than satisfying anything one sexually. In addition, to those of the fans who wanted it are probably a minority. But I doubt it was the writers' intend to satisfy them, and it is more a comedy feature. You know, humour! --SvipTalk 20:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I believe it was Anarchy Balsac who put it up. We'll wait for his thoughts first I guess. Another wonder I had was the rumour point. I see how it's relevant, but I also don't think it is relevant (if that makes sense). -Mini-Me 22:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
It was the only way I could think of to describe it. Not all straight men think lesbians are attractive, so it is important to draw a distinction. As for the speculation part, well any explanation of it is speculative, however, my theory is heavily supported by the commentary where one of the commentators said, "Your welcome fans" during that very part.Anarchy Balsac 06:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
That does not sound to me like a complete prove. It could be the commentator just thinking of it as he watches it, but it was the original intend of the scene. I think his reference is more about the sexual undertones and the fact that something happens, that is what the fans should appreciate. But who knows? If anything, at least make it more speculative, so it doesn't appear as "truth". --SvipTalk 11:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
There's also the fact that Farnsworth and Bender both made comments along the lines of said fans. So any other possibility is extremely unlikely. I mean are you going to tell me that the scene, how it reflects the wishes of certain fans, the commentary by Claudia Catz, and the characters' own remarks are all a coincidence? I personally don't care about the scene, but the facts point to what was posted. And I do care about the facts.Anarchy Balsac 20:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Given the writers' tendency to make really "nerdy" allusions to general science and science fiction, I think it's pretty likely the title is a reference to Ender's Game, a sci-fi novel by Orson Scott Card which won the Nebula and Hugo award's in 85 and 86, respectively. I don't really know how to go about proving that, just that from the audio commentary on the seasons David X. Cohen seems to read a lot of science fiction and often makes references to things from it. Granted it could just be describing the fact that it's Bender's game of D&D, but I can't think of any episodes or movies where the title was so bland and purely descriptive. They're usually a play on something.