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:As evident on the [[Commentary:Bender's Big Score|commentary]], there is no real meaning to the code now, there ''used'' to be.  I am quite sure this is also explained in our article.  It's simply an increment of binary 1 till 6, which is then "mirrored".  It's as simple as that, just ask David X. Cohen.  --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:00, 24 May 2008 (PDT)

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Where did the code come from in the first place?!

Well, as mentioned in the article, it was originally supposed to be a lottery number. But since it had to be believable that Fry could read it in the mirror, it had to be mirrored. So its original meaning was lost, but the code was simply created from increasing from 1 to 6 in binary. If that is not what you are wondering about, please clarify your question. --SvipTalk 16:58, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

What I meant was, Bender from the future put it on Fry's ass in the cryogenic chamber, so I don't understand where it came from originally and I was just wondering if I missed something, but thanks for trying to answer my question anyway.

That... that is the entire joke. It proves one of the problems with time travel. You didn't miss anything. --SvipTalk 15:40, 7 April 2008 (PDT)
It is inexplicably without origin, much like a duplicate Planet Express Ship in Futurama (video game)
Game
, the tattoo is always a duplicate and is doomed every few years. - Quolnok 18:22, 7 April 2008 (PDT)

I sporked this from the Wikipedia article of Bender's Big Score's talk page

The following may be interesting to you. Somehow I doubt it. Im a bell 14:51, 24 May 2008 (PDT)

I was wondering if anyone has noted down the binary code on Fry's butt, and translated it into English? Sadly I watched this at a friend's, and didn't think to note it down, else I'd hit it myself, and, if it's worth noting, add it to the entry. Someone give this a peak?-=Worloq=- (talk) 12:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The binary code on Fry's butt is,

001100
010010
011110
100001
101101
110011

which when converted means gibberish, given the placement of the 0's and 1's it looks more like a pattern. Possibly a spaceship? --CannedhamX (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


Well, if we try to look at only the 1s we see the pattern

11
1 1
1111
1 1
1 11 1
11 11

and if we look at only the 0s we see the pattern

00 00
0 00 0
0 0
0000
0 0
00

I'd say it's a spaceship, but we also see another important factor: the negative space of pattern is an upside down version of the pattern. -- Masterzora (talk) 07:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

When each row is converted to a number in decimal, you get: 12 18 30 33 45 51

I tried checking this against an ASCII table, but it appears to be nothing. The first three are blank characters, then !, -, and 3. So I think we can rule ASCII out. I'd suggest looking at the pattern in other ways than row by row, but I believe that's how Bender read it. Is there a pattern to the numbers maybe? 12 to 18 is 6, 18 to 30 is 12, 30 to 33 is 3, 33 to 45 is 12, and 45 to 51 is 6 again. The only pattern I see is add 6, add 12, add 3, add 12 and then it starting over again. I guess the spaceship is the best explanation for now. I have a feeling we'll find out in the future, I expect them to follow up on the movie's cliffhanger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.246.4.87 (talk) 19:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Another interesting one I heard is to divide the digits into triples and convert these to decimal, so

001100
010010
011110
100001
101101
110011

becomes 1 4
2 2
3 6
4 1
5 5
6 3

We see 1,2,3,4,5,6 down the left side and then the right side is just a result of making the binary such that Fry can read it with a mirror. -- Masterzora (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

As explained in the DVD commentary, the binary is palindromic for plot reasons. The actual translation of it (in decimal) was originally part of a plot thread involving a lottery that was dropped to simplify things. 72.153.165.234 (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I added this to the page under Themes, but the user Someguy0830 keeps undoing the changes. The paradox-free time traveling code presented in the film is used numerous times by Fry and Bender (and also once by one of the alien scammers). Even though it looks very confusing and random, in fact it is a simple arrangement of binary numbers. If you split the binary numbers down the middle, you can see that the numbers are a binary representation of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, which is mirrored on the other side. This is similar to the logic puzzle put in an episode of the Simpsons entitled Lisa the Simpson. OptimumCoder (talk) 06:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

For several reasons. One, it's written improperly. "You" is rarely used except in quotes. Two, it's original research to compare it to Lisa's puzzle, especially since the DVD commentary quoted one paragraph above you discounts it. Three, it's not a theme, it's a plot device. A running gag isn't really a theme so much as a joke, either, but it at least has commentary. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

So, time for some more fun manipulation of the binary code to find some possible meaning:

001100
010010
011110
100001
101101
110011

Now, ASCII is usually 8 bit and, since letters in ASCII begin at 65, we could add "01" to each of these lines to get

01001100
01010010
01011110
01100001
01101101
01110011

Converting these to ascii, we get the characters LR^ams, which we can rearrange to be LaRs^m. "^m" is an escape sequence corresponding to a carriage return, so this altogether spells "LaRs
".

In other words, Lars had his name tattooed on his butt.

-- Masterzora 02:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Fantastic. I think you should put this discovery in the lead. Or maybe just change the title of the article to TIMECODE==LARS!!!1

-₪-Hemidemisemiquaver (talk) 16:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

As evident on the commentary, there is no real meaning to the code now, there used to be. I am quite sure this is also explained in our article. It's simply an increment of binary 1 till 6, which is then "mirrored". It's as simple as that, just ask David X. Cohen. --SvipTalk 15:00, 24 May 2008 (PDT)